During his hour-long conversation with Daily Wire emeritus Ben Shapiro, HBO host Bill Maher said he could see former President Donald Trump winning in 2024.

Maher said Democrats are botching close-to-home issues, namely education, which could cost them the election. The host also agreed with Shapiro that if Trump were to run in 2024, he’d “clear the field” and likely be the nominee for the Republicans.

“I could see that Trump could actually win that election, easily,” Maher said. “Especially if the Democrats keep doing the stuff they are doing to piss people off, like in schools, with all that kind of stuff.”

“My theme has been that, yes, both parties have a lot to answer for. Again, I told you where my politics are in general, okay. I’m not coming over to this side. I do think that Republicans are more dangerous,” the liberal said. “But what pisses people off with Democrats is so much closer to home, it’s so much up close and personal.”