Fox News anchor Bret Baier and “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace argued Sunday that President Joe Biden’s town hall flubs went beyond simple “gaffes.”

Wallace pointed out several instances from Thursday’s CNN town hall with Anderson Cooper when Biden had made claims or given answers that the White House later had to clean up or walk back entirely.

Baier went on to note that Biden’s propensity to go off script and create situations that required his team to come behind him and clean up or clarify his comments could be part of the reason he was not willing to do as many interviews.