Former White House Press Secretary and future Peacock host Jen Psaki joined the University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics (IOP) Wednesday for her first post-Team Biden interview and dished on her affinity for Peter Doocy, threats to her family (and not expressing concern for what Supreme Court justices have faced), some of her mistakes, and how a Hillary Clinton administration press office might have had less on-camera briefings.

And during the Q&A portion, Psaki spared with a conservative student from the venerable Chicago Thinker over her encouragement of protests against the justices.

IOP faculty members and far-left New York Times reporter Jennifer Steinhauer started with Doocy because “[w]hether people follow politics, didn’t follow politics, the country was sort of mesmerized by these weekly, or often more than that, sparring that you had with the Fox News reporter in the briefing room.”